Final Fantasy Character Assessments: Cecil Harvey

Final Fantasy Character Assessments

Character Assessments: Squall Leonhart–>

This is the continuation of my surprisingly popular Final Fantasy Tarot weekly post with some additions.  I promised to start an astrology series for the games, but in the weeks between my last Final Fantasy Tarot post and this, my ideas have expanded.  I not only want to explore potential zodiac signs, but a few other traits as well.  As I matched a character to a Major Arcana in the last project, here I’m going to match a Major Arcana to each individual character (if that doesn’t make sense right now, it will once you get into the posts).

Ideally, I’d like to do every Final Fantasy character from all the games I’ve played starting with Final Fantasy IV, since that’s the first game that had definitive characters with individual personalities, so this is will be another long term series, though I’m going to intersperse it with the questions you’ve seen before.  It might be an every other week deal, or the time intervals might be greater.  I haven’t quite decided yet.

The traits to be assigned, analyzed, and discussed are as follows:

  • Tarot (Major Arcana)
  • Zodiac/Astrological Sign
  • Alignment
  • Myers-Briggs Personality Type
  • Diagnosis

Obviously, this is all my conjecture and neither canonical nor absolute.  The astrology in particular is based on my personal assessment of the character, considering that many of them have established birthdays, which would concurrently denote their (Western) astrology.  For example, Aeris’s birthday is February 7, 1985, which would make her an Aquarius; however, my estimation of her zodiac sign is quite different, and I’ll be basing my choice on personality rather than birth date.  This may make some purists angry, but such determinations are merely my opinion and have no bearing on anything beyond personal speculation.

My BFF Kat is much better at astrology than I am, but she at least imparted her wisdom to me about Moon signs among other things.  Briefly, the answer you give when asked, “What’s your sign?” is for the Sun, but there are signs for at least six other celestial bodies: the moon, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter, and Saturn.  I don’t have the skills to do all of them, but the moon sign is easy enough, especially when you have in such deep characters like Final Fantasy boasts.  It’s sort of the shadow self, the part that lies under the surface that effects your behavior in the subtext.

To give another example I’m a Taurus with a Libra moon, which is…difficult to say the least.  Tauruses tend to be stubborn and bullheaded (look at the symbol for the sign).  Once we’ve come to a conclusion, we’ll stick to it, but we’re also sensual (as in literally all about the senses);  we’re generally sweet; we loooove delicious food and comfort; we’re obsessed with beauty (hooray for our sign being ruled by Venus); and we’re loyal to a fault.  We’re slow to anger, but once you do, the horns come out, and you need to move heaven and earth (which is our element) to get back into our good graces.  Libras tend to be more balanced.  They’re also ruled by Venus (double beauty!); they like to weigh their options, and they can be flighty since their element is air..

You can see how this would clash with the stubbornness of the sun sign.  I’m constantly at war with myself.  The front part of me will be steadfast, but there’s always that little voice in the back of my head that wonders if I’m erroneously dismissing the other points of view, because I don’t want to miss something integral by refusing to give ground.  It’s…nerve wracking when I 100% know that something or someone is wrong or has treated me poorly, because I always want to try to see it their way no matter how much I might despise that or them (I’m also super empathetic…).

Having just recently discovered my own Myers-Briggs personality type (INFJ representing!), I thought it would be a novel addition to my character assessment.  I pick them letter by letter, determining whether the character is I (introverted) or E (extroverted), N (intuition) or S (sensing), F (feeling) or T (thinking), and P (perceiving) or J (judging).  While there is some informed criticism of it, MBTI has personally helped me understand myself much better. Astrology has even harsher and rational criticism, but I can say the same thing about that.  I always want to be open to newer and better information and change my opinion based on such, but for the purpose of this series, I think both assessments are more than acceptable.

The diagnosis idea came from one of the wisest blogger I know Athena of AmbiGaming who started a series of her own called Diagnosing Bad, where she discusses the potential mental issues of villains.  This itself was inspired by Falcon Gaming Review’s Character Alignment Profile,. which is easy enough for me to add, as well.  I’m always so thankful for the brilliant bloggers I follow whose words inspire so many of my ideas.  With this aspect, I’ll try to use my meager B. A. in Psychology to offer up some kind of diagnosis if applicable or at the very least an idea of what could be going on in the character’s head.

These posts will obviously be spoilerific, since I must be able to freely talk about the character’s entire story arc in order to give them a proper assessment.  As always, everything is up for discussion and/or debate.  There are no correct answers, only valid arguments.  I’m hoping you’ll enjoy this new project/series!

Name: Cecil Harvey
Game: Final Fantasy IV
Job: Dark Knight/Paladin
Age: 20

And where we had thought to find an abomination
we shall find a God.
And where we had thought to slay another
we shall slay ourselves.
Where we had thought to travel outwards
we shall come to the center of our own existence.
And where we had thought to be alone
we shall be with all the world.
-Joseph Campbell “The Hero With a Thousand Faces”

Major Arcana: Temperance – Cecil (whom I’ve written a full character analysis on before) is the perfect balance of two distinct worlds..  This revelation is foreshadowed in how he manages to reconcile his dark side and become a paladin even before he discovers the full truth of his origins.

Zodiac: Virgo with a Libra moon – Virgos are typically analytical, hardworking, kind, and practical.  They worry often, are shy, and don’t like being the center of attention.  They’re also modest, faithful, quiet, and persuasive with a good sense of reasoning and memory.

This sign seems to be the perfect fit for Cecil.  The eventual paladin is described as a quiet, young man of unsurpassed skill with the dark blade.  He never comes off as a braggart or someone who desires attention just for attention’s sake.  The opening FMV shows him in contemplation with Rosa, and we know from the game’s story that the Dark Knight feels unworthy of the White Mage’s love and worries he’ll never live up to what he thinks she deserves.  However, he’s utterly devoted to her, nor does he ever give up on Kain even when the dragoon knight turns against his best friend.  Cecil does break faith with the king of Baron, but only because he refuses to kill a child (Rydia of Mist) after (inadvertently) burning down her village and slaying her mother as the king’s pawn.  His reasoning remains sound to the point of overriding orders he finds morally repugnant.

The Libra moon adds another layer of rationality.  They tend to be peacemakers, and Cecil is literally the synthesis and the balance of two planets.  He’s the light side of the moon who remains steadfast even in the face of earth shattering revelations that could easily cause an existential crisis.

Alignment: Lawful Good – Up until the events of the game, particularly his mission to Mist, Cecil had no major issues following this path, though we do see him questioning the king on the opening flight back to Baron.  When his orders unequivocally demanded he kill a child, Cecil withstood the inner conflict to go against such an abhorrent act.

Myers-Briggs Personality Type: ISFJ (Introversion-Sensing-Feeling-Judging) – Cecil is definitely an introvert.  Final Fantasy has the distinctive trend of main characters that fit this trait, which is pretty awesome.  Since he’s captain of the Red Wing fleet, sensing seems more practical than intuition, and at one point he plans to go after the seven Crystals already stolen, while Golbez searches for the one he doesn’t yet have, a wholly sensible plan.

I went back and forth between F and T, but settled on the former, since Cecil’s first major decision was based on a personal value, the belief that killing children is wrong no matter what you’re ordered to do (take that “I was just following orders”).  He also adds the destruction of Mist and the death of Rydia’s mother to his growing cache of guilt.  His inability to give up on Kain showcases the trait of looking for the best in people, and he values forgiveness not only for his troubled adopted brother, but also seeks it himself.

Cecil isn’t wishy-washy, and being a captain/soldier, he’d have a sense of rules and deadlines with plans in place.  After Kain returns to his rightful self, the paladin forgives him immediately with no grudge left to hold.  This led me to pick judging for the final piece.

ISFJ is considered The Defender, which solidifies my decision to affix this personality type to Cecil .  People like this rarely sit idle while a worthy cause remains unfinished.  They don’t feel comfortable in the spotlight, but they’ll endure it to ensure what needs to be done is done.

Diagnosis: Cecil is pretty level headed, but it’s possible he’s dealing with some depression at the beginning of the game when he’s still a Dark Knight.  There are also some self-esteem issues, too, since he believes he doesn’t deserve Rosa, a White Mage, for this very same reason even though she obviously loves him.  He’s been forced to fit himself into the wrong role by his adopted father and king, and it’s causing a major identity crisis.  He’s not sure what he’s supposed to be, but he knows it’s not supposed to be that.  The majority of this is alleviated when he becomes a paladin and literally defeats his darker self.  However the identity crisis gains a new facet due the mirror’s light at the top of Mt. Ordeals calling him “son.”

Despite all of this, Cecil is still probably one of the most balanced characters and/or balanced main characters in Final Fantasy.  This could be due to the fact that he has an existential crisis to deal with from the get-go, so when the more prominent one occurs much later in the game, he’s better prepared.  His identity didn’t so much change from Dark Knight to Paladin as be revealed for the latter after the forced and false one was literally slain.

What do you think of my assessments of this character?  Do you agree?  Disagree?  Would you pick another Major Arcana, astrological sign, alignment, MBTI, and/or diagnosis?  Let’s discuss in the comments and let me know whom you want me to do next!

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38 thoughts on “Final Fantasy Character Assessments: Cecil Harvey

    • Yo wassup dawg, why you so terse?! Cecil Harvey would kick yo’ ass for such a crime, boy!

      Anyway, I think Cloud Strife (with a surname like that) would probably be described as the ideal, angst-ridden introvert. What about Link from the Legend of Link: A Link to the Past? Introvert. Samus? Psychopath. More importantly, Toad clearly labours under excessive compulsive sunny disposition disorder. The Toad clan is also rather analogous to the Minions, don’t you think? Crazed lunatics, the lot!

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    • Thanks! I’ve done character analyses before, but it’s been a while since I’ve done one. This is supposed to be short lol. Well the character analyses are supposed to be short, too, but I looooove to talk about favorite characters :p I’m not going to do it every week. I’ll still have my questions, but I wanted to at least start what I promised.

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  1. Thanks for the information.

    But seriously, this is really cool! I love the depth that you took your analysis. I’m not familiar with Cecil, but he sounds like a wonderfully complex character, and from your description, I’d agree on the ISFJ designation.

    …also, for the record, I’m not nearly as impressive as you and Lightning made me out to be. I have a master of music in music therapy, and my undergraduate work was also in music therapy, although I have a minor in psychology at that level, too. Not quite Ph.D., yet! Although Dr. Goddess of Wisdom would be quite something to ask people to call me, yeah? haha

    Also also, I can’t reply to the thread between the two of you, but there is a difference between a formal education and being a smart person! I’ve met plenty of “highly educated” people who are absolute morons when you talked to them and have no work ethic, and plenty of people who never went to college yet are insightful, intelligent, and hardworking. Framed papers on the wall don’t determine how smart you are, nor are they the reason a person should respect you or your job.

    So… yeah, nice analysis of Cecil (haha).

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    • That sounds much more impressive than I thought! Power to Almost-Dr. Athena, Goddess of Wisdom & Music Therapy!

      Yeah… I’m going to flash off before the amazingly talented Shameful Not-Really-Narcissist moderates me for bothering her loyal commenters. She’s so awesome for putting up with me for this long! 😅

      Addio!! ⚡⚡⚡

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    • Well if I’m going to use the power over-analysis, I might as well use it for good 😀

      I think it sounds impressive. Music was one of the many things I thought about studying, but I was absolutely awful at theory. I think I missed a prerequisite. It was fascinating, but it was too advanced for me at the time. I’m also terrible at reading music. Anything I’ve learned to sing or play I just memorize the melody and in the latter case let my fingers do the talking.

      That’s really weird…I wonder why that is. I don’t have a block on people replying to anything I don’t think. Hm, curiouser and curiouser.

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      • Aw, thanks. Hey, all you gotta do is carry a tune and fake an accompaniment and you’re golden in my book. Sounds like you can do more than that 😉

        Yeah, it’s like that on mine, too. After a certain level of “nesting” comments, you can only comment through the little notification bar, so if you’re late to the commenting party you can’t jump in. I’m not sure how to change it or if there’s a way to change it.

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    • If I may flash back here again, I noticed you awesome people had a technical problem. I’m not so good at speaking da good English or fancy book learnin’, but electronics/technology bends to my will!! 😈 Hello confidence, my old friend!

      So, the default comment Reply depth is 3. To change this, do the following: My Sites button in the top left corner > Settings > “Discussion” tab from the middle menu > Look under the Comments header and adjust “Enable threaded (nested) comments up to _ levels deep” as desired.

      Lightning, AWAY!! *trips over a rock and staggers away while mumbling several obscenities*

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  2. This was a great read. I really enjoyed the detail you included here and I agree with everything you mentioned! I’m definitely looking forward to more of these in the future. I challenge you to do the protagonist from Faxanadu who never utters a single word and just accepts a difficult quest with some monetary coercion from a man in a position of power. Or just do whatever you like. You seem to be good at choosing excellent characters 😀

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